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Laura: Hi Bill - Welcome!
Bill: Hello
Bill: Hello all
Laura: This is Bill Pedroni I trust?
Bill: yes
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Meg: Hi Bill - long time no talk
Mary: Hey, Bill are you still with East?
Laura: Hi Mellie - Welcome!!
Mellie: Hello everybody
Bill: Meg. I hear that you are not longer at West
Meg: Hello to you Mellie'
Bill: Yes mAry I still at East
Meg: Nope - I'm not the only one who ran to greener pastures. I swindled Mary into coming out to play too!
Bill: Mary clifford?
Meg: Yup!
Laura: Why doesn't everyone start with introductions and which LInC you took ...
Mary: Mellie, I am Mary! Meg and I are called M&M and we are really twins. Only 20 years apart.
Meg: I'll start off...
Meg: I'm Meg and I took the first LInC in Fall '95. I started teaching in Spring '96. I've worked with the Design Team for the project ever since.
Mary: I was also with Fall'95 and became and instructor and then on to the Leadership Team and the online course for design and implementation, rewrite and now I lurk.
Meg: Bill??
Bill: I took the LInC on fall96 and I am helping with the course of w99
Bill: And still learning
Meg: Great Bill - how 'bout you Mellie?
Mellie: I guess I'm the newbie. I took LInC winter of 98.
Bill: Mary and Meg were my facilitators
Laura: Mellie - you met Meg in office hours one day
Mary: We were very goood too, huh , Bill?
Laura: Now Bill is an instructor too!
Bill: no comment :-)
Mary: Mellie, are you a classroom teacher?
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Laura: Hi Randall! Welcome!!
rdunkin: Hello, Laura! You are looking well today. :-)
Laura: We are starting with introductions
Meg: Hi Randall...
rdunkin: Hello, Meg!
Mary: This is really fun, because Meg and I are here with Laura at the lab. We are online and face-to-face.
Laura: I'm Laura - from LInC 0 :-)
Mellie: Yes. I'm a GT Resource Teacher by job description. This year my principal decided to try something new and gave me three math classes, one reading class and no research classes. It blew the h out of trying to implement CheSSie. CheSSie was our LInC pr
Laura: How did it go?
Mary: You sound as used as Meg and I are in our jobs. You are ONE BUSY WOMAN!
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Meg: Do you have any other members of a team to work with? Mary and I are Learning Technologies Facilitators and we work as part of an Instructional Resource Team along with our GT's and Instructional Coordinators.
Mary: Hello, Randall! Good to see you could make it. I think I remember your project. What LInC Online were you with? Spring `98?
rdunkin: Hello, Mary. I was in Winter 1998.
rdunkin: http://prime.jsc.nasa.gov/SIMON/Version3/index.html
rdunkin: Have any of you seen this little ditty?
Laura: lets take a look ...
Meg: I'm off to look now - what should I be looking for?
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rdunkin: It is sort of a free Webwhacker!
Laura: Welcome Sharon!!
Sharon: Hi everyone, I finally was able to connect!
rdunkin: Hello, Sharon!
Meg: Good resource
Meg: Hi Sharon
Laura: go ahead and introduce yourself, sharon
Sharon: I think I know everyone here. I am one of the original design team and have been a facilitator.
Mary: Hey, Sharon, how are you?
Meg: Mellie, did you get lost in this crowd?
Sharon: It has been one of those days.
Mary: Mellie, what grade level are you at?
Mellie: No, I'm still here. Randall, tell more about the WebWhacker. Have you used it?
rdunkin: Yes. It really takes the fun out of those...
rdunkin: "special little technologically talented...
rdunkin: students" who just have to show you...
rdunkin: how they can get around Bess and other filters. ;-) Nyaa, Nyaa, you can't fool Simon. :-)
Laura: some people don't know what Simon is yet -- can you give a quick description for us
rdunkin: Certainly...
rdunkin: Simon allows search and retrieve off-line and downloading of entire web sites...
rdunkin: along with an editor that you can use to build your lessons.
rdunkin: It matches well with another interesting...
Laura: Is it like PageMill or specific to builing lessons?
rdunkin: tool found on the same site which is known as ILIAD...
rdunkin: http://prime.jsc.nasa.gov/iliad/index.html
rdunkin: Sorry...
rdunkin: It is a way to control the content of the Internet-based classroom by allowing offline searching...
Laura: thanks Randall - got it.
Laura: One of our participants found this great forms URL
Laura: It allows you to build your own form on their site!
Laura: yes it is free - you have to deal with ads though
Laura: http://mail.infotrieve.com/
Meg: One of our teachers found one of those, but it was a free one and didn't hold very much data. Any idea how much this one can support?
Laura: Not sure what their limit is
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Laura: this semester everyone wanted to do forms and their forms were fairly short
Meg: I will tell her about this one and she'll be sure to test it out :)
rdunkin: Looks interesting! Thanks Laura.
Laura: it is free because they think when you want to get fancier, you will buy their product
Laura: But I talked to some teachers who used it
Sharon: I just looked at the FAQs and they mentioned...
Laura: they said they got a sales call a few months later, but did not have to buy
Sharon: no limit on number of surveys but they will only hold up to 120 days.
Mary: That's 4 months
Meg: 120 days is great really - who would want to stay on a project that long anyway?
Mary: The length has been established, Sharon, do you know the size or how much their limit would be?
Sharon: I am still reading but there does not seem to be one. I'll let you know.
Laura: 3rd link in right column from the bottom
Laura: on the topic of projects ---
Laura: the W99 LinC course just finished and they have some wonderful projects!!
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Meg: Sharon asked me to share some of the PBL projects that we have been designing in our district. Here's one that a group of music teachers did - I can also give you a link to the whole index.
Meg: http://web54.sd54.k12.il.us/ntac2/music/
Laura: check out /lincon/w99/projects/index.shtml
Meg: I'm sure the teachers would like some feedback if anyone has time to read through their materials.
Meg: (This looks like one of those "I'll show you mine if you show me yours"!
Sharon: Just think of all the feedback we can give one another.
Meg: I'm off to read through some of the new LInC ones...
Sharon: Meg, I was just going to mention that I am looking at the music project.
Laura: nice to see some music projects, we haven't had too many of those
Meg: That's one of the reasons I picked this one to share
Meg: I also think they did a real good job of sticking to the EL indicators and still using good PBL stuff
Sharon: I like the flowchart created by the 5th graders connecting the different instuments.
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Laura: they just asked here about project rubric
Laura: That URL is /lincon/el_project_rubric.shtml
Laura: It is a form anyone can use to evaluate an EL project
Laura: you fill it out and it send you mail and whoever else you want copied on the mail and shows a nice web page
Laura: Sharon - it is a form now - as of 2 days ago :-) instead of just text
Sharon: I really liked having the participants receive a copy of the rubric.
Sharon: Great, that will make it even easier.
Meg: Thanks Laura - I think I would like to have our teachers (in Dist.54) review the Winter '99 projects and send you their views. It would be a great way for them to apply what they've learned so far and start stretching their view of what a web-based projec
Sharon: If you are interested in videoconferencing, I have put together a how-to and I would like some feedback about it...
Sharon: please share it with others and let me know what you think.... here is the URL
Sharon: /lincon/videoconf/nfsi_videoconferencing.htm
Laura: I'll take a look
Sharon: All comments are welcome and appreciated.
Meg: Cool Sharon - I'm emailing myself all these great links!
Sharon: We were talking about posting the chat for everyone. Would you prefere that?
Meg: That might be a good idea - I have no idea if this email is going through or bouncing.
Laura: Wow Sharon - that is a really nice page!
Laura: I hadn't looked before
Sharon: Thank you. I was trying to make it useful for everyone.
Laura: Next time someone asks me about video conferencing, I'll know where to send them
Meg: Me too!!
Sharon: It does not take that much money to set up your classroom either.
Laura: Do you think it's worth it to buy the commercial software or is the lite software fine?
Mary: I have really been busy reading the projects, but I am here.
Sharon: WhitePine has changed CU-SeeMe software to make it much easier to use...
Laura: so it sounds like it's better to buy it then
Mary: I heard that it is no longer free. Do you all know?
Sharon: I showed three 7th grade girls and they were talking to each other within 5 minutes.
Laura: you know how 7th grade girls are about talking to each other :-)
Sharon: Mary, that is correct CU sold the rights to Whitepine
Mary: Do you have a reflector with your software?
Sharon: Globalschoolhouse will set up a reflector. I have a link to them. Educators are free to enroll... I have also conferenced one to one
Mary: This is really good to know.
Sharon: If you want to try it someday let me know and I will help. My students definitely will love to chat with other students.
Mary: Mellie, are you still with us or did you go get something to eat?
Mellie: Sharon - do you mean that Global Schoolhouse will set up a reflector for teachers to use. Do we just enroll with Global Schoolhouse?
Laura: there's an offer! very nice of you Sharon
Sharon: Go to the web site for Global Schoolhouse and enroll. Then there is a link to conferencing..
Meg: I'm really bummed guys but I have to go now - take care and don't be surprised if I take you up on your offer Sharon!!
Sharon: they also have a techperson to assist you.
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Mellie: One more thing. Does anyone know how fire walls may affect getting through to the reflector?
Thu May 6 19:01:35 1999
Laura: You may have to use a proxy
Sharon: Mellie, we had a problem with firewalls here...
Laura: Meg says she could have talked all night. I ill walk her out.
Sharon: I contacted WhitePine and they sent software to correct the problem...
Sharon: check with your tech people in your district
Mellie: OK. Great. I'll do that. Sure would be nice to use videoconferencing.
Sharon: My students have conferenced with a school in Chicago and astronomers in Japan this year.
Mellie: That's fantastic!
Sharon: We are trying to set up a conference with a school in Hawaii next
Sharon: I want to personally visit but my district won't let me.
Mary: Do you still keep in touch with the scientists from your grant project?
Mellie: Can't imagine why not. What kind of hardware system are you using at school?
Sharon: Mary yes.. that was how we conferenced with Japan.
Sharon: We have powerMacs and a T1 connection.
Mary: We are PC based in our district and it is finally becoming my second language to MAC
Sharon: I showed the Chicago school how to use the software and they are PC based. The software works with both platforms.
Mary: I have not had any requests for video conferencing this year, but I really expect to next year.
Sharon: It is a great way to have experts talk to your students without them having to travel.
Sharon: Japan sent images of their night sky to my students during the day. It made astronomy more meaningful to them
Mary: Also, the more sensory input that the students have the better the learning.
Mellie: Thanks all. As always, you've been very helpful. From the sounds downstairs, I guess it's time for dinner. Bye
Sharon: Thanks for coming.
Laura: Thanks for coming Mellie - always great to "see" you. Say hi to Susan
Mary: Bye, nice to meet with you!
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Sharon: Mary, it has been great to talk to you.
Mary: Well, girls, it is just us old timers and I should take off also. This has been great!
Sharon: We should do this more often.
Mary: After school is out! Bye!
Sharon: Bye
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